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« on: May 09, 2008, 01:29 AM »

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I received and accepted two new members today. But I was suprised at
what they said as reasons for joining this list: to learn more
about 'lomo' and 'lomography'.Smiley

OK for starters-

Only the cameras produced by LOMO can be called as LOMO cameras.
Anything else (even though mongered by those Viennese capitalists who
sell cheap plastic cameras at insane prices) is not. They're just
plastic novelty cameras. One of the types whose use this list
encourages.

LOMOGRAPHY isn't what it presents itself to be. It's neither new nor
unique. People have been doing this sort of photography for ages-
typically shot with anti-tech or retrogressive notions in mind, with
often fuzzy and "badly" (whimsically is the preferred term Smiley)
composed images as a result. It's been known as toy camera
photography for ages.

The use of toy cameras isn't really difficult- just point and press.
Nothing mystical nor special in the method. The magic lies in the
technique of shooting itself. How one translates his wacky visions of
reality through these marvelous, low tech instruments is where the
sorcery works. This is never taught. It might even be impossible to
do so.

However, when it comes to questions on what to use (cameras, etc), how
to use them, what to feed them (film issues) and how to develop these
films, there are plenty of people in this list who can share their
knowledge and experiences. This would be the easiest part.

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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2008, 02:01 AM »

wow, astig, yeah!!! mismo!!!
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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2008, 12:30 AM »

wow nice..

naalala ko lang share ko lang mga bossing..

meron den ganyan dun sa kabilang forum eh. sabi ko nga gusto ko matuto more about "lomography".
dahil den sa gf ko kaya ako nag lomo.. i gave her a xmas gift (fisheye 2). after that parang naengganyo ako
mag lomo. bumili ako ng medium format "diana" at nagustuhan ko resulta niya kaysa sa holga (meron den kami nun lol) so habang tumatagal nagiiba yung pananaw ko sa larangan na to. haha active pa pala ako sa kabilang forum.

naisip ko [ No Text Speak Please ] pala ako sa lomography nagkagusto kundi sa film mismo, sa analog photography. kung ano ang naipoproduce ng film at naibibigay saken.. hobbyist lang po ako.from digital to film (kawawa naman yung nikon ko di na napapansin). although siyempre gusto ko pa den mag digital pero iba kase yung feeling para saken na film ang ginagamet ko. may kakaibang magic na di ko maexplain. parang nagiging mas wide pa yung imahinasyon mo at nagiging malawak pa sa palagay mo yung art of photography. basta di ko maexplain ng husto eh. kaya ito. adik na ako sa cameras. hopefully soon matuto ko sa film processing at develoiping at anything about serious photography. malamang matututo ko nito soon sa daming infos ko na nattunan sa forum na ito kahit ilang araw pa lang ako member. at akoy masaya at nabilang ako dito Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2008, 12:56 AM »

@ jeffrey, nice to know that  Smiley at sana by this time hindi ka na rin naniniwala na all analog photography is lomography... Wink
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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2008, 01:28 AM »

@ jeffrey, nice to know that  Smiley at sana by this time hindi ka na rin naniniwala na all analog photography is lomography... Wink

hehe actually di naman ako naniniwala dyan kahit date Tongue meron akong friend na matagal na naglolomography di ako naenganyo dahil parang 4 years ago uso na yun at lalo pang naging uso ngayon haha asa billboard na nga eh.
buti at tama desisyon ko na maghanap ng mas seryosong camera. although yung diana cam gusto ko siya Sad mukhang kiev at olympus xa kakamkamin na ng lsi Sad

ang sarap ng analog photography! baka igive up ko na yung digital cam ko para dito hahaha
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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2008, 01:37 AM »

ayuz!  Cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2008, 01:03 PM »

ang sarap ng analog photography! baka igive up ko na yung digital cam ko para dito hahaha

Tama benta mo na sa kin yung digital mo jeff  Grin
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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2008, 01:24 PM »

Tama benta mo na sa kin yung digital mo jeff  Grin

pagisaipan ko hahaha Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2008, 01:41 PM »

@ jeffrey, nice to know that  Smiley at sana by this time hindi ka na rin naniniwala na all analog photography is lomography... Wink



term analog photography is rigth or not?


analog means continuos electrical pneumatic signals.







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« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2008, 04:35 PM »

Yes,
The word analog has been misused in the past 10 years.
It was a term of distinction first used to differentiate the way information has been recorded and stored in magnetic medium and later to digital medium, especially when VHS/Betamax videos were transfered to digital medium like Laser discs and VCDs. The most telling difference was evident in what was called "generation loss" which occurs when copies were made. Hence the necessity to identify the original as "master". When everything was converted to digital, a copy becomes as good and identical to the master.
About 5 years ago, during the transition period from analogue to digital in the videography business, that distinction was often used. U-Matic,  Betamax, VHS nd Hi-8 were analogue. They recorded electro magnetic impulses according to the fluctuating electro magnetic values the recorder captures. In professional videography at that time, the U-matic was the only one accepted for broadcasting.
The U-matic recorder was replaced by the Betacam, and then by DV. Here, the values were converted to digital signals of 0s and 1s.
The DVD's that we watch today is digital, but when we watch them on old CRT TV sets, they are converted back to analogue. Only the LCD, HD TVs and Plasmas are digital.
No analogue still camera became popular, so very few people became aware of that phase. The few models which were made had a built-in tape recorder which records the still pictures. So, when the real digital cameras came out, first as attachments to PC, then a floppy-disc recording Mavica, the confusion started. When the declaration that digital photography is here to stay, the comparison with film photography was inevitable.
Digital has replaced analogue. Analogue=everything that WAS before digital. Film=analogue. There's the confusion.

I agree with you that a clarification has to be made.
Because film falls under a totally different science --"photographic" which will function even without electro-magnetic energy.


 

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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2008, 04:47 PM »

Wow...man..we learn something everyday...thanks for this info,direk..and thank Buck for asking...
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« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2008, 10:41 PM »

thanks for the clarification direk, and buck, it's not bad english, after all it's all semantics, really. peace! Tongue
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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2008, 02:59 AM »

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B&W film photography on the other hand is purely digital!
--Mike


Yes, Mike!
Thank you for pointing that out. A BW photo is just a collection of on/off signals creating an image.
You learn something new everyday. And this one is life altering!
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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2008, 03:37 AM »

ang saya may natutunan ako bago.

so film photography much better? Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2008, 08:21 PM »

nice Smiley thank you for these lessons hehehe..
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« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2010, 09:28 PM »

The forum does have "rangefinder" in the name, and AFAIK, no camera distributed by lomo is a rangefinder. It's not being snooty; if you're into motorcycles, you don't join the sports car forum looking for advice on bikes. Different kinds of vehicles, different kinds of cameras.

PS, hindi ako anti-lomo. I greatly appreciate people who use them because they increase the number of film camera users (and film consumers), which is good for everyone who loves using film.
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« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2010, 09:45 PM »

The forum does have "rangefinder" in the name, and AFAIK, no camera distributed by lomo is a rangefinder. It's not being snooty; if you're into motorcycles, you don't join the sports car forum looking for advice on bikes. Different kinds of vehicles, different kinds of cameras.

PS, hindi ako anti-lomo. I greatly appreciate people who use them because they increase the number of film camera users (and film consumers), which is good for everyone who loves using film.


We are not limited to RF's.





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« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2010, 10:01 PM »

We are not limited to RF's.

Yup I know, and I'm glad the forum isn't limited to RFs, and neither does it require the ownership of an RF to join.

However, I was just trying to address the OP, who noted that some people joined because they want to "learn more about 'lomo' and 'lomography'". There's nothing wrong with that aim, but logically, if you join a 'rangefinder' forum but are not interested in rangefinders, you'll find most of the thread topics not relevant to your personal photographic preferences, that's all. As I said, I have nothing against lomos or lomo-distributed toy cameras Smiley
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« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2010, 02:28 AM »

PS, hindi ako anti-lomo. I greatly appreciate people who use them because they increase the number of film camera users (and film consumers), which is good for everyone who loves using film.

ayaw mo maging anti-lomo? Tongue

hehe ako lipas na ako dyan.. i'm just here na lang to share kung ano puede ko mashare dito at anong natutunan ko sa mga tanders dito Smiley. lalo na sa mga taong gusto talagang matuto or mahal ang film photography.. classic photography.. Smiley
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« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2010, 02:32 AM »

wow! almost 2 years of pure film photography! classic photography again.. i really really love..

ps: minsan iniisip ko. baket ngayon lang kita naamoy film, chemistry and vintage cameras. kung kelan wala na ako pera pambili hahaha.. ilang taon den ako nagbulag bulagan sa digital.  Shocked Grin
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